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    Anxiety attacks?

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    Post  woody67 Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:42 am

    At the risk of sounding like a total basket case....I am kinda exhausted by them at the moment.

    their occurence is really random ,but soooo intense ,I breathe and try to understand why but ...whoa..lately kinda almost more than I can stand..

    I I know what the reason for them is but this seems to make no differnce
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    I have tried to identify my freak outs, and to this end have recently added a dog to my family...he is ten weeks old at the moment so not quite up to the task...but he will be...

    I s'pose all I am asking is .....am I alone? or is anxiety kinda ok these days??
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    Post  Psalter Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:15 am

    "Anxiety attacks" are only sometimes triggered by anxiety. Sometimes they can be just a physiological fuck-up... can't they?

    In saying that, I have only had one and it was psychological... weird how the body shuts down.
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    Post  Anjewel Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:59 pm

    I look after someone who suffers anxiety attacks..If she is expecting someone to come see her, and they don't turn up at the time they said, off she goes...If left on her own for more then 5 minutes, anxiety kicks in...Hers is mixed in with depression...

    I remember my sister having them quite a few years ago, but she drug fucked herself into anxiety attacks in those days, but once she finally figured out the main cause of the attacks and gave up the drugs, the anxiety attacks finally left her..Her anxiety back then was easier to handle then her paranoia...I'm glad she finally grew up...

    What a shit of a thing to have to live with especially when you know what can trigger them off...Just breathe Woody...
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    Post  woody67 Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:18 pm

    Thanks guys I normally wouldn't even post personal downer kind of stuff...but even as i typed I felt a bit better...I have never let it take control of my life as such but every so often the odd crack in my mental defenses leaves me a bit ratty and kinda pissed off that these attacks fucking occur!!! I even noticed it in my posts both here and on SC and so to those I may have offended .....humble apologies.
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    Post  dabiarch Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:47 pm

    i work with a student that has anxiety attacks.....so far he has been fine..... but if he doesn't have a support person in class with him all hell breaks lose......and he is such a nice young guy.
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    Post  Donkeycheese Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:07 pm

    I think there is something to do with Personality Types that have an imapct upon anxiety attacks. I think the two personalities are Type A and Type B. Type A are damned controlling - I guess an oversimplified version would be Virgo. Type B are teh opposite - whatever happens. This would be a Pisces (or stoner - or both, if we talk about me).

    Anyway, there is such thing as an AB as well

    BUT, the example that is often used is this - you are on your way to an appointment, and you get caught in a traffic accident-how do you react? Are you stressed? Do you just not give a shit?

    Type A is stressed - they get stressed about things that they can not control. Type B recognises that being late is a shitter, but that there is nothing that can now be done, AND its not their fault.

    Anxiety Attacks are more often assocatied with Type A personalities - they get caught up with everything that is going on, and then feel that they lose control.

    It is not that Type B personalities have less stresses in their lives, they just don't give a fuck. They have, in essence, learnt how to shrug off the shit they can't control.

    If you already know what gives you the shits, then try and combat the associated anxiety. This is actually impossible to do without understanding what ticks you off in the first place, so I would suggest you are already 50% of the way there.

    I used to control my moods with music, but it really comes down to what has sufficient control over you. Hope that helps a little
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    Post  ____ Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:26 pm

    Donkeycheese wrote:Corporate Astrology

    There's more than 3 kinds of people in the world Donkey, c'mon.

    I haven't had an anxiety attack in years, but I never knew what the trigger was for me, and I'm just glad I've managed to avoid anymore since then.
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    Post  Donkeycheese Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:04 pm

    ____ wrote:
    Donkeycheese wrote:Corporate Astrology

    There's more than 3 kinds of people in the world Donkey, c'mon.

    I haven't had an anxiety attack in years, but I never knew what the trigger was for me, and I'm just glad I've managed to avoid anymore since then.

    good call actually

    every psych theory tries to pigeon-hole people into whatever type of personality you are trying to measure. The major ones for personality are the extrovert/introvert, pschopath, and neurotic

    Freud was excellent, because he always managed to get the penis involved

    But around anxiety, I was simply offering an insight into some of the correlations (they sure as hell ain't causes) that we studied. A gross generalisation, but people who suffer anxiety tend to find it more difficult to let something go than the apathetic.
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    Post  ____ Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:08 pm

    I mostly just wanted to write something else off as "Corporate astrology" to be honest.
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    Post  woody67 Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:08 pm

    Interesting stuff!....I get anxious when my man goes away for work , and know this comes down to the fact that I now have a child and am I up to the challenge IF an intruder were in the house?....
    A long time ago IE 15 years , I was awoken by a man with a gun at my head wearing a balaclava..There was no resistance (physically anyway) on my part and I took the Friday off work and was back on the Monday.....back then the anxiety was (in a way) easier to handle as it was just myself to look out for...I truly do not impose my fear on my son or my partner I don't think that is fair on them or very healthy for me...I prefer to be a survivor as opposed to a victim and keep my anxiety to myself, Back in the early days I found that once i had accepted living with the churning stomach/nausea/breathing effects, could well be a permanent part of my make up it actually eased up a bit or perhaps receded into my internal make up.
    I suppose that intermittently I just rage against the machine so to speak and get frustrated that although I think mentally I have it sorted,physically out of the blue I fucking don't!!!! emotionally it is saddening and maddening at the same time.
    Fortunately for me I DO know why I have these moments and I feel fucking sorry for those people out there that don't.
    And this may sound airy fairy to some but I swear the whole breathing into a paper bag thing when the anxiety shit really hits the fan really does work ...Placebo effect?
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    Post  relict Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:07 pm

    woody67 wrote:I swear the whole breathing into a paper bag thing when the anxiety shit really hits the fan really does work ...Placebo effect?

    Nah. Physiological/chemical effect. My guess was when you need fight or flight, you need extra oxygen to do so, so your breathing rate increases. When you use the bag, you reduce the oxygen, thus normalising things. This may be oversimple - there may be other stuff going on there too, that I have forgotten about. Or I might be wrong. Smile
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    Post  relict Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:10 pm

    Funny that as I typed that, the 'Ads by Google' above the topic was:

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    I Suffered From Anxiety, Nothing Worked Until I Tried This 1 Secret.
    www.Cure-Anxiety-Attacks.com

    Though of course I am not intending to promote the site, of which I know nothing.
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    Post  relict Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:19 pm

    woody67 wrote:I s'pose all I am asking is .....am I alone? or is anxiety kinda ok these days??

    You don't sound at all like basket case. But if it were me, I'd probably not just accept it; I'd seek counseling, even at a much later date. I'd be wondering how much my child could pick up on my feelings, even though I wasn't open about them.

    But typing that possibly makes me a hypocrite, because I had a different incident where my employer offered free counseling (it was a work related incident, where the perp. was charged and convicted, but at the time I thought it was minor and I didn't need help) and now I look back and wish I'd taken the opportunity.
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    Post  woody67 Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:35 am

    Lately I have thought of the counselling thing and yet feel that a psychiatrist would have a hard time unravelling my shit ...lol

    I used to think........ what if it happened again? and came to the conclusion, shit happens and if that's your way to go that is just your way to go,I would rather be shot in the head than go through that again.....and then you give birth and suddenly your thinking.... "if I could live my life again and had the power to avoid a part of it and risk all aspects changing ie if that didn't happen and I hadn't walked this path, would I have had this same child? met the same man?" the answer is no, I would go through it all again......
    And so it is the catch 22, I love my life and may hap would not have the same one without this occurrence....and yet the anxiety (it seems) will on occasion temporarily win the battle.....bastard of a thing that it is!!!
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    Post  Linno Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:25 pm

    If you wanna avoid the whole 'unravelling of your shit', then maybe you could see a counsellor who specialises in cognitive behavioural therapy, coz from the basic info i know I think it focuses more on sorting out the present problem/s rather than doing a deep Freud-type analysis of your past. If that makes sense. More of a pro-active type thing. Worked really well for my bro and sis (yeah my family is full of messed-up type A's Donkey mentioned earlier). Probably could do with some therapy myself.

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