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    Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:03 pm

    There is no question of where I stand on the matter, most people know.

    This thread is a continuation of http://smilecity.co.nz/Community/ForumPost.aspx?topicid=191229

    Now, the last thing said in this thread went like this:

    There is no 'humanitarian crisis' in Gaza. More than enough food is being supplied - by, and via, Israel.


    Uh huh.

    /\ From Savant.

    Now (no longer) greasemo... would you care to expand on that, or has SC dragged you down to mono-syllabic grunting as arguments these days?
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:49 pm

    Israel doesn't allow tin cans into Gaza, because the tin can be melted down and made into weapons. They don't allow concrete and steel in, hampering reconstruction efforts, because it "might be used by terrorists", 4 out of 5 palestinians rely on foreign aid to survive, something like 50% of adult women there are anemic, with something like 23% of children being the same. blah blah blah. There is a humanitarian crisis there, but I don't really care one way or another.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:53 pm

    ____ wrote:Israel doesn't allow tin cans into Gaza, because the tin can be melted down and made into weapons. They don't allow concrete and steel in, hampering reconstruction efforts, because it "might be used by terrorists", 4 out of 5 palestinians rely on foreign aid to survive, something like 50% of adult women there are anemic, with something like 23% of children being the same. blah blah blah. There is a humanitarian crisis there, but I don't really care one way or another.

    http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/HiddenMessages/ItemsGazaStrip060510.pdf

    Contraband.

    I had it open before, and I am pretty sure I saw tinned food on the "allowed food" list.

    I don't know about the rest, it doesn't seem to want to open again.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:58 pm

    Psalter wrote:
    ____ wrote:Israel doesn't allow tin cans into Gaza, because the tin can be melted down and made into weapons. They don't allow concrete and steel in, hampering reconstruction efforts, because it "might be used by terrorists", 4 out of 5 palestinians rely on foreign aid to survive, something like 50% of adult women there are anemic, with something like 23% of children being the same. blah blah blah. There is a humanitarian crisis there, but I don't really care one way or another.

    http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/HiddenMessages/ItemsGazaStrip060510.pdf

    Contraband.

    I had it open before, and I am pretty sure I saw tinned food on the "allowed food" list.

    I don't know about the rest, it doesn't seem to want to open again.

    Capped, will have to look at it some other time.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:07 pm

    I've got it open - just no time to format it.

    Back in a while.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:15 pm

    I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Get Spandex over here and I'll watch him get angry again though.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:40 pm

    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Get Spandex over here and I'll watch him get angry again though.

    Adrian and Spandex? Suspect Is that a person?
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:42 pm

    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Get Spandex over here and I'll watch him get angry again though.

    To be fair, I don't actually know that much in the area, I just don't swallow the one-sided story we are fed by the media.

    Israel was fucked the moment that ship set sail. Don't stop it, thousands of ships load up with "humanitarians" carrying "essential" supplies such as Potassium Nitrate. Stop it, try to search it and.... well, that's what is happening.

    Well played Mohammed, you got them this time.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:50 pm

    Psalter wrote:
    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Get Spandex over here and I'll watch him get angry again though.

    To be fair, I don't actually know that much in the area, I just don't swallow the one-sided story we are fed by the media.

    Israel was fucked the moment that ship set sail. Don't stop it, thousands of ships load up with "humanitarians" carrying "essential" supplies such as Potassium Nitrate. Stop it, try to search it and.... well, that's what is happening.

    Well played Mohammed, you got them this time.

    You know far more about the history of the region than I do.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:57 pm

    Comes from being a God-botherer maybe?
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:12 pm

    Probably, or just more interested in that shit than I am.

    Saw 3 coffee table books you probably would have liked today. One on handguns, one on rifles, one on shotguns, all just filled with pictures of fucking sexy looking guns, with a brief history of each manufacturer.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:45 pm

    Partial List of Items Prohibited/Permitted into the Gaza Strip
    May 2010
    The following list is approximate and partial, and it changes from time to time. It is based on
    information from Palestinian traders and businesspersons, international organizations, and the
    Palestinian Coordination Committee, all of whom "deduce" what is permitted and what is
    banned based on their experience requesting permission to bring goods into Gaza and the
    answers they receive from the Israeli authorities (approved or denied). It is not possible to
    verify this list with the Israeli authorities because they refuse to disclose information regarding
    the restrictions on transferring goods into Gaza. It should be noted that Israel permits some of
    the "prohibited" items into Gaza (for example: paper, biscuits, and chocolate), on the condition
    that they are for the use of international organizations, while requests from private merchants
    to purchase them are denied. For more information, see: Gisha, Restrictions on the Transfer
    of Goods into Gaza: Obstruction and Obfuscation, January 2010 (available at:
    www.gisha.org).
    Prohibited Items* Permitted Items
    sage flour
    cardamom sugar
    cumin sweetener
    coriander rice
    ginger salt
    jam cooking oil
    halva semolina
    vinegar yeast
    nutmeg pasta
    chocolate chickpeas
    fruit preserves beans
    seeds and nuts kidney beans
    biscuits and sweets lentils
    potato chips peas
    gas for soft drinks Burgul wheat
    dried fruit corn
    fresh meat lupini beans
    plaster powdered milk
    tar dairy products
    wood for construction margarine
    cement hummus paste
    iron frozen meat, fish, and vegetables
    glucose vitamins and oil for animal feed
    industrial salt empty bags for flour
    plastic/glass/metal containers medicine and medical equipment
    industrial margarine diapers
    tarpaulin sheets for huts feminine hygiene products
    fabric (for clothing) toilet paper
    flavor and smell enhancers baby wipes
    fishing rods shampoo & conditioner
    various fishing nets soap & liquid soap
    buoys toothpaste
    ropes for fishing laundry detergent
    nylon nets for greenhouses fabric softener
    hatcheries and spare parts for
    hatcheries dish soap
    spare parts for tractors glass cleaner
    dairies for cowsheds floor cleaning fluid
    irrigation pipe systems cleaning liquid for bathroom use
    ropes to tie greenhouses chlorine
    planters for saplings insecticide for household use
    heaters for chicken farms coffee
    musical instruments tea
    size A4 paper salami meat
    writing implements canned meat
    notebooks canned fish
    newspapers sponges for cleaning dishes
    toys sponges for washing
    razors mopping rags
    sewing machines and spare parts cleaning rags
    heaters all canned food except canned fruit
    horses za'atar spice
    donkeys black pepper
    goats sesame
    cattle powdered chicken stock
    chicks blankets
    matches
    candles
    brooms
    mops
    dustpans
    trash cans
    aniseed
    chamomile
    cinnamon
    wastewater purification powder
    glass - 200 trucks
    water coolers + heaters
    mineral water
    Tahini (sesame paste)
    hair brushes
    hair combs
    shoes
    clothes
    wood (for doors and window frames)
    aluminum
    soft plastic bags
    fruit
    vegetables
    hay
    fertilized eggs
    pesticides for agriculture
    soil for agriculture
    particles for soil dilution
    chemical fertilizer
    plastic buckets
    plastic crates for fruits and vegetables
    plastic chicken cages
    egg cartons
    cartons for transporting chicks
    fiberglass and plastic trays for planting
    various kinds of agricultural seeds
    eggs (for eating)
    greenhouse nylon
    various kinds of veterinary medications and
    products
    wheat
    barley
    animal feed
    *Some of these items are permitted if they are for the use of international organizations.

    SHITE!!!!!!!! I spent AGES separating the columns and it still won't display that way. Twisted Evil

    Not a lot of this makes any sense to me. They are allowed to import animal feed, but not animals? Suspect
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Lynz on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:30 pm

    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Haha, how unlike you.

    But you are in the case. Wrong.

    They may not be getting Fillet Steak. But they are getting enough calories. Hamas is restricting aid that is available. Depends on who you support.

    Another ship load of morons are due anytime. Time for a replay.

    Oh. Israel delivered the aid, that that is not permitted, from the last bunch. Hamas refused to accept it. Guess they must be really desperate eh?

    And I liked the article in the paper this morning. Quoted some Journalist saying they yelled out "Processional Journalists!" as they were boarded. Do these fucking idiots think a Press Card makes them bullet-proof. Or somehow immune to restrictions in a Security Zone?
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  ____ on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:34 pm

    Lynz wrote:
    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Haha, how unlike you.

    But you are in the case. Wrong.

    They may not be getting Fillet Steak. But they are getting enough calories. Hamas is restricting aid that is available. Depends on who you support.

    Another ship load of morons are due anytime. Time for a replay.

    Oh. Israel delivered the aid, that that is not permitted, from the last bunch. Hamas refused to accept it. Guess they must be really desperate eh?

    And I liked the article in the paper this morning. Quoted some Journalist saying they yelled out "Processional Journalists!" as they were boarded. Do these fucking idiots think a Press Card makes them bullet-proof. Or somehow immune to restrictions in a Security Zone?


    If a friend of mine were delivering some chicken soup to me while I was sick, and a bully stepped in, killed my friend, took the chicken soup and knocked on my door and said "Hey, I brought you some soup", I'd say "Fuck off, asshole" too.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  frup on Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:56 pm

    Sent to kill, to watch no man's land
    Snipers are moving unseen
    Fight for land, to lose it again
    Shrapnel is filling the air

    Hell on earth, the trenches mean death, better keep your head down low
    Charge their lines, the ultimate test it's a synchronized (sacrifice)

    Get the wounded after dark
    Left alone in no man's land
    Maddening chaos at the front

    Dream of heaven
    (angels are calling your name)

    Shells and guns, a rifle and scope
    Bullets are wearing your name
    Losing track of time and of space
    Midnight at sanity's edge

    Losing friends to artillery shells, at the break of dawn
    Break their will, as yours has been broken, they're here alone, (dream of home)

    Charge at dawn to gain a yard
    Scout at night to guard their lines
    Leave your life in fortunes hand

    Dream of heaven
    (angels are calling your name)

    Hell on earth, the trenches mean death, keep your head down low
    Charge their lines, the ultimate test it's a synchronized (sacrifice)

    When the bullet hits it's mark
    Know your time in hell has been served
    You won't return to home

    Dream of heaven
    (angels are calling your name)

    Calling you home
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:03 pm

    ____ wrote:
    Lynz wrote:
    ____ wrote:I just want to point out that I'll defer to Adrian's superior knowledge in this particular arena, and he should also know that I'm always reluctant to get into a debate where I might be proven wrong.

    Haha, how unlike you.

    But you are in the case. Wrong.

    They may not be getting Fillet Steak. But they are getting enough calories. Hamas is restricting aid that is available. Depends on who you support.

    Another ship load of morons are due anytime. Time for a replay.

    Oh. Israel delivered the aid, that that is not permitted, from the last bunch. Hamas refused to accept it. Guess they must be really desperate eh?

    And I liked the article in the paper this morning. Quoted some Journalist saying they yelled out "Processional Journalists!" as they were boarded. Do these fucking idiots think a Press Card makes them bullet-proof. Or somehow immune to restrictions in a Security Zone?


    If a friend of mine were delivering some chicken soup to me while I was sick, and a bully stepped in, killed my friend, took the chicken soup and knocked on my door and said "Hey, I brought you some soup", I'd say "Fuck off, asshole" too.

    Yeah - me too.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:00 pm

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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:51 pm

    Another update

    What do you think? I like it, myself.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  dabiarch on Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:27 pm

    marks you do not have to keep giving updates......whomever may be banned from SC can still read the forum.if they wanted to comment they would be reading it over there
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  83T'na on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:34 pm

    Try Tna, in here, dabiarch. Smile
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:57 pm

    In regards to Lynz's thread... Israel could mop the floor with the entire middle-east.

    How long did it take them to bring Lebanon to its knees? 10 hours was it?

    Iran wouldn't last a day.
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    Re: Israel vs Idiots...

    Post  Psalter on Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:16 pm

    Mutednewt really has no idea... without nukes, without the US, all alone, Israel is still the shit when it comes to weapons.

    Just conventional weapons? No problem, still bomb Iran back to the stone-age.

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