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    Post  the distant one Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:16 pm

    BREAKING NEWS: In a shock move, the Government has this evening taken parliament in to extraordinary urgency to pass a bill increasing tobacco excise tax by more than 33 percent over two years.

    Tax on roll-your-own tobacco will also increase by 50 per cent over two years.

    The Government expects the Bill will be passed into law tonight.

    "The move will put the price of cigarettes and roll-your-own tobacco up enough to save hundreds of lives," said Associate Minister of Health Tariana Turia.

    The bill pushes the excise tax on tobacco up in three steps over two years. It is proposed that the excise on cigarettes will rise immediately by 10 per cent with a further 10 per cent increase next January and a third increase of 10 per cent in January 2012.

    There will also be a 24 per cent increase in the excise tax on loose tobacco followed by 10 per cent increases in 2011 and 2012, adding up to just over 50 percent over two years.

    "We know that putting up the price is a powerful tool to reduce smoking," Mrs Turia said.

    "It forces people to cut back, but more importantly it provides a strong incentive for smokers to quit and helps dissuade young people from ever starting to smoke."

    Mrs Turia said the changes represented a huge investment in the future of the country.

    Helping smokers to quit was a priority of the Government and a health target.

    When passed into legislation tonight, the price increases will take immediate effect.

    Mrs Turia has just finished her first speech commending the bill and Labour's health spokesman Ruth Dyson has indicated the opposition will support it as "a huge step forward".

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    great now tomorrow I'm gona have a whole bunch of angry retailers demanding to know why I didnt tell them this was coming.... thanks john. but then again it is probably a good thing for the company cause it means that retailers cant by up large and make extra profits haha
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    Post  Waireka Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:20 pm

    Yay!
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    Post  ____ Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:34 pm

    Damnit Scott why didn't you warn me!
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    Post  the distant one Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:38 pm

    hahahaha well go out and by them tonight!!! I dont think the cost will be immediatly passed on I would say there will be like a 1 month grace period to give tobacco companies time to sort their shit out.
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    Post  frup Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:00 pm

    This is good.

    Keep raising the tax 1% above the rate of inflation every month I say. Means when you quit, each month is an even better milestone Very Happy

    The important thing is to stop new people smoking. The more expensive they are the less likely YOUNG kids will start. I started when I was 13 on and off. I started full time when I was 16. Had they been the price they are now I probably never would have had enough cash to actually get addicted. were they twice the price they are now, I would never have started.

    I know only two people who smoke now who didn't start in their teenagers.
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    Post  Waireka Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:07 pm

    Someone should find some stats. I imagine the smokers rate and the population rate are getting further apart too, so there is a shortfall in taxes?
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    Post  ____ Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:17 pm

    Waireka wrote:Someone should find some stats. I imagine the smokers rate and the population rate are getting further apart too, so there is a shortfall in taxes?

    As of 2002, smokers were 29% of the population.
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    Post  Donkeycheese Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:29 pm

    I know someone who can get them cheap for me

    oh, hang on - you're here...
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    Post  Waireka Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:17 pm

    ____ wrote:
    Waireka wrote:Someone should find some stats. I imagine the smokers rate and the population rate are getting further apart too, so there is a shortfall in taxes?

    As of 2002, smokers were 29% of the population.

    We need another year for comparison.
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    Post  ____ Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:39 pm

    You find it then, I can't be bothered.
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    Post  dechire Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:21 pm

    It's at 21% at the moment.
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    Post  meandmybum Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:32 pm

    the hole point of graduated increases is to get people used to paying more
    they are used so as not to shock customers into no longer using the product if it goes up too much at once
    why does our government feel the need to use this method
    long term sustainability of the industry perhaps
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    Post  Psalter Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:37 pm

    MAMB, you surprise me every now and then... you know, when you are serious.

    You make some damn good points.
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    Post  Roadhog Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:24 pm

    meandmybum wrote:the hole point of graduated increases is to get people used to paying more
    they are used so as not to shock customers into no longer using the product if it goes up too much at once
    why does our government feel the need to use this method
    long term sustainability of the industry perhaps
    either that or the World Bank has increased its foreign debt intrest rate and The Dipstick from Dipton (Finance minister) needs more dosh to keep the receivers out...
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    Post  the distant one Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:30 pm

    meandmybum wrote:the hole point of graduated increases is to get people used to paying more
    they are used so as not to shock customers into no longer using the product if it goes up too much at once
    why does our government feel the need to use this method
    long term sustainability of the industry perhaps

    the studies done show that this graduated system does work ina some regards... the reason they dont whack it all in one go is those countries that have, have seen a huge growth in the illict trade.
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    Post  Phoebe Sun May 02, 2010 3:32 pm

    All politicians are A-Holes and its a tax and nothing to do with health Cool
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    Post  ydekm Sun May 02, 2010 4:44 pm

    Get Maori party onside by promising some sort of action on tobacco sales... check
    Fund Whanau Ora .... check


    I asusme that is why the initial idea to keep cigarettes out of sight was axed... still need those $$ afterall.

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