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    Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  woody67 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:16 pm

    Just saw this in the quote of the day thread and was hoping Bullseye could expand on their comment a bit more?

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    Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Guest on Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:49 pm

    Just commenting on some of the people in SC.

    They seem to define their own worth on how well accepted (or not) they are in there.

    Actually, I made a small grammatical error in there. It should read more like, "Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth it for you to be a part of?
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Summoner on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:30 pm

    If it was... I'd be in Zamfucka right now.


    My life is defined by how I live and how I accept myself... I really don't give a fuck if I am accepted by people or not.

    I do think there is a majority in SC that really need to find a life outside of SC... and ironically enough it is those that claim they do have a life outside of SC.

    Members like farmers and embroider, and her bloody dead mother, are the most pathetic of them all but there are others.

    For farmers it's a case of "look at me, pity me, like me...please?"

    embroider just has a weird obsession with a woman who is dead... and needs to get over it and find a new hobby... like chasing tyres or something.

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    Farmers and embroider.

    Post  Guest on Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:42 pm

    Summoner wrote:

    Members like farmers and embroider, and her bloody dead mother, are the most pathetic of them all but there are others.

    For farmers it's a case of "look at me, pity me, like me...please?"

    embroider just has a weird obsession with a woman who is dead... and needs to get over it and find a new hobby... like chasing tyres or something.

    Laughing I get that.

    I was thinking more about markslovenz, actually. She seems to have been struggling to join this little club of people who are intellectual, but really not worth her effort. Certainly not worth stressing herself so much it's affected her heart.

    No, she's not the sharpest tack in the box. But neither is she as bad as some people paint her. She argues on an emotional level while others use their intellect. I've noticed how she tries really hard not to descend to insults to get her point across. Others' very worth while points are lost in amongst the vicious things they say to her.

    What bothers me is that any of them give her the time. Why? Ok, we agree she's not as smart as them, so why waste their own intelligence arguing with her?

    Before you ask, I'm not that smart either. I try and stay out of debates simply because my thought processes don't work that way.


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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Psalter on Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:39 pm

    marks brings it all on herself by telling people how to be people... that's all it really boils down to.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  master5o1 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:44 pm

    LIFE IS LIFE



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    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:54 am

    Psalter wrote:marks brings it all on herself by telling people how to be people... that's all it really boils down to.

    That too. Maybe she sees it more as telling people that her way of being a person might work better. That's wrong too.

    But, aren't some people in SC trying to tell her how to be a person too? Aren't they telling her that, by going in there saying whatever she has to say she has to accept some really awful behaviour from a small group of members?

    Alright, she's a twit. But the forum today looks like a high school playground. Those more intelligent people should be able to see that and just how juvenile they look.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  ____ on Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:37 am

    bullseye wrote:

    Alright, she's a twit. But the forum today looks like a high school playground. Those more intelligent people should be able to see that and just how juvenile they look.

    I rarely see internet forums as a place for srs bznz. I'll be an asshole to people online in ways I won't be offline because it's anonymous, meaningless and often hilarious. Sure, there may be another person on the other end, but I don't know them and their feelings don't mean anything to me, but if they get wound up by shit I say online that's their defect, because I take very little online seriously.

    (Chrome, stop trying to tell me that "online" and "offline" aren't words)

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    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:55 am

    ____ wrote:

    I rarely see internet forums as a place for srs bznz. I'll be an asshole to people online in ways I won't be offline because it's anonymous, meaningless and often hilarious. Sure, there may be another person on the other end, but I don't know them and their feelings don't mean anything to me, but if they get wound up by shit I say online that's their defect, because I take very little online seriously.

    (Chrome, stop trying to tell me that "online" and "offline" aren't words)

    Can I be totally honest here? You sound like the worst kind of coward. You're making excuses for being a bastard, FFS. Oh, I wouldn't do that to real people. She is a real person. If she's not someone you would look to be around in real life, leave her alone online.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Psalter on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:27 am

    Cowardice? No, I don't think so... there are just different social conventions in an online community. Would I engage the retard in conversation in normal life and act the same way? No, I wouldn't... I would likely let that awkward silence fall... you know, that one that tells everybody that someone has just embarrassed themselves? Yeah, well you can't do that online so I tell it straight.

    Yes, she can say what she wants, she can tell people how to be people if she wishes... but she genuinely interferes in people's business by narking. She imposes her own moral code on people where she has no right to.

    Reminds me of surfgirl... when I told everyone that I had converted to Islam, she started posting hateful, vile things about Muslims and used Fabian tactics in debate. No purpose to that recollection, I just hate the bitch.

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    Differing social conventions.

    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:50 am

    Psalter wrote:Reminds me of surfgirl... when I told everyone that I had converted to Islam, she started posting hateful, vile things about Muslims and used Fabian tactics in debate. No purpose to that recollection, I just hate the bitch.

    The comparison is actually quite apt. Although, I have to admit I have no idea what a Fabian tactic is.

    Ok, there are differing social conventions online. Why, though? Who decided that?
    None of us is ever likely to meet the woman, so who decided it was ok to chase her around the internet for the sole purpose of making her look bad? If you're a nice guy in real life, why not be the same guy online? Is it some kind of dual personality you need a release for?

    The threads are gone now but there were a couple of occasions when she did say something half way intelligent and got answered with insults. Did those people have no intelligent answer for her? It looked to me like they were hiding behind bully tactics because they really didn't have a good enough answer.

    As for narking, I don't see any point. SC is never going to listen to her or anyone else. If rules are being broken, it is for them to moderate the forum but no one can make them.

    I guess I'm quite like her in that I think on an emotional level first. But I tend to back away and have a think before actually sticking my oar in.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Donkeycheese on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:01 am

    I can honestly say that retarded comments I make on SC are the same as the ones I make in real life - hopefully, in both cases, people recognise that I am being retarded for humour value, rather than it being my honest opinion. On rare occasions, humour and honesty meet

    Some people deserve to be treated with disdain - narks is a classic example! Bigoted twats don't deserve fake pats on the back or props. Fuck'em!

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    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:05 am

    Why not just ignore them, Donkeycheese? If they're not worth your respect, why give them your attention at all?

    I don't always get your humour, but I like your honesty.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  ____ on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:33 am

    bullseye wrote:

    Ok, there are differing social conventions online. Why, though? Who decided that?

    In my case, I decided that. I don't see reality as analogous to cyberspace so why should I treat them the same?

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    Online conventions.

    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:39 am

    ____ wrote:

    In my case, I decided that. I don't see reality as analogous to cyberspace so why should I treat them the same?

    Meh - fair enough I guess.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Lynz on Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:43 pm

    Although, I have to admit I have no idea what a Fabian tactic is.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Donkeycheese on Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:05 pm

    bullseye wrote:Why not just ignore them, Donkeycheese? If they're not worth your respect, why give them your attention at all?

    I don't always get your humour, but I like your honesty.

    interesting point

    for me, whether they are worthy of my respect or not, has no impact on whether I give them any attention. if I have time, I will call a twat a twat

    if I don't have time, I sometimes forget to tell those whom I love that I love them





    PS - I love you guys (You guys, are my best friends, through thick and thin, we'll always be together)

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    Post  Guest on Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:24 pm

    Hahahaha - ok Donkeycheese. You're an equal opportunity kind of person. Cool.

    The Fabian strategy is a military strategy where pitched battles and frontal assaults are avoided in favor of wearing down an opponent through a war of attrition and indirection. While avoiding decisive battles, the side employing this strategy harasses its enemy through skirmishes to cause attrition, disrupt supply and affect morale. Employment of this strategy implies that the weaker side believes time is on its side, but it may also be adopted when no feasible alternative strategy can be devised.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy thank you Lynz



    From here -

    Pot, meet kettle, much? I can see how markslovenz does this, yes. But I can also see it being employed against her. A lot. It definately affects her morale and, if the heart condition is real, her health.

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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Tikva on Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:59 am

    To answer the original question, No, my life is not defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining.

    I do agree with what bullseye is saying though. I guess it boils down to what road you prefer to take when it comes to your communications with others on the internet ~ the high road, or the low road.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  woody67 on Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:47 am

    I think in regards to Markslovenz that she perhaps in RL isn't as popular as she would like, I do get a bit gobsmacked at how often she narks on others , narking has always been something I find dishonourable both in RL and on the internet.
    Furthermore in regards to SC there are many many threads she could post in that would give her her fix and yet not stress her out as much.
    So in a way she is quite controlling as she knows that the people that she reports are highly unlikely to do the same to her.....at this point I really think she needs to be banned, it would mean that she could still see threads but not respond and I think this could be educational for her, A kinda step back,look at the bigger picture if you will.

    On a COMPLETLY different note! Anjewel unleashing her darker side was fanfuckingtastic reading! I think it's those little nuggets of prose that keep some of us logging in as often as we do.
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Anjewel on Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:39 pm

    In all honesty, I don't believe Marks got anywhere near a hospital over Easter...It was just a cop out and an attention seeking attempt, hoping that everyone would let her be so she never had to apologise to Frup, or admit that she was way out of line...In the words of the Thompson Twins..."Lies lies lies yeah, they wont forget you..."...Hence why I couldn't and can't give a shit...

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    Post  Guest on Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:27 pm

    Anjewel wrote:In all honesty, I don't believe Marks got anywhere near a hospital over Easter...It was just a cop out and an attention seeking attempt, hoping that everyone would let her be so she never had to apologise to Frup, or admit that she was way out of line...In the words of the Thompson Twins..."Lies lies lies yeah, they wont forget you..."...Hence why I couldn't and can't give a shit...

    She did admit she was out of line and apologise.

    Right here
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Psalter on Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:50 pm

    A post of mine that was deleted is now returned... what manner of witchcraft is this?
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  Donkeycheese on Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:53 pm

    Anjewel wrote:In all honesty, I don't believe Marks got anywhere near a hospital over Easter...It was just a cop out and an attention seeking attempt, hoping that everyone would let her be so she never had to apologise to Frup, or admit that she was way out of line...In the words of the Thompson Twins..."Lies lies lies yeah, they wont forget you..."...Hence why I couldn't and can't give a shit...

    Anjewel - I love you more!! I was a fan of the Thompson Twins as a kid (east is east, west is west)

    I listened again recently - fuck they're quite shit!!! Anyway, Tom's current thing is International Observer - quite interesting~!!!
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    Re: Is your life defined by fighting to be part of a club that isn't worth joining?

    Post  canterella on Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:59 pm

    bullseye wrote:
    She did admit she was out of line and apologise.

    Right here

    Have you read the whole post? Because it didn't look like an apology at all. Even though the words 'I apologise' have been used, the context suggested otherwise - that she was not apologetic at all and that she was actually doing us all a service by doing the job the SC moderators were supposed to. do.
    So no, I don't buy into your opinion that she has apologised and that we should believe her attention-seeking crap.

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